- From: Sandro Hawke <[email protected]>
- Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:05:28 -0500
- To: [email protected]
IRC Log: http://www.w3.org/2003/11/13-webont-irc Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Nov/0034. **************************************************************** ** Calendar 20 Nov -- Informal meeting to discuss proposed tests. chair: Ian agenda from: Jeremy 4 Dec -- Normal meeting chair: Guus scribe: JimH 9 Dec -- Target publication date for PR documents **************************************************************** ** Attendance Charles_White, Mike_Smith (left start+60), Guus, HermanT, Ian_Horrocks, Jeff_Heflin, Jeremy, Jerome, JimH, JosD (arrived start+34), Marwan_Sabbouh (left start+79) Mike_Dean, Sandro Sean (left start+71) **************************************************************** ** Previous Meeting Minutes Approved: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Nov/0000 as amended in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Nov/0037 RESOLVED **************************************************************** ** Continued Action Items: ACTION DanC: turn Ian's reviews into test cases ACTION jimH: ask mindswap for review of Sean's doc ACTION guus: ask peter for review of Sean * B. document. ACTION jjc: review sean's document ACTION Guus: see whether ontoweb can provide some support for OWL outreach ACTION ChrisW: to write up draft of working group position on OMG ontology metamodel definition in general and on OKBC in particular ACTION Guus: to comment on naturalness of mapping from OWL to UML ACTION Jeremy: fix editorial problems with additional query-style tests ACTION Guus: to send reply to Brickley's owl:Class/rdfs:Class comment ACTION Jeremy: to add a new test that highlights one of the issues in message http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0001 ACTION Jeremy C: will update test doc accordingly. ACTION Jeremy C: to send email re precise change to S&AS. ACTION Jeremy C: Change Annotation-Proprety-003. ACTION Guus - Initiate discussion of what we expect of an ontology library/directory at a W3C site. (to be on agenda for Dec 4) (all others completed, except two (Jeremy and Sandro to report on Full Subset utility) withdrawn.) **************************************************************** ** Conveying outcome of Issue 5.26 ACTION Mike_Smith: add text to Guide conveying result of issue 5.26 JimH: He'll inform group; people can comment/object if necessary, but we'll assume his change is okay if no comment **************************************************************** ** TEST CASES ACTION Sandro: deal with syntactic tests showing up as proposed Jeremy: AnnotationProperty-003 recently updated -- not sure if test results are current. We should delay approving that. Sandro: How will we know when people are reporting tests against the new version instead of the old one? Maybe 003 should be obsoleted and a new name used? ACTION Jeremy: look at AnnotationProperty-003 and deal with it. RESOLVED approve someValuesFrom-003 AnnotationProperty-002 I5.3-010 I5.8-016 as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Nov/0041.html ACTION Jeremy: change to APPROVED: someValuesFrom-003 AnnotationProperty-002 I5.3-010 I5.8-016 Discussion of DL-209. Agreement (no resolution needed) to leave is proposed until more people get a chance to try it. Discussion of DL-502. It's the same problem as DL-504 which is being passed, but this seems to be a harder encoding. RESOLVED to change it to extra credit. ACTION Jeremy: change to EXTRACREDIT: DL-502 Discussion of Misc-011. New test coming from Guide tests. New enough that many haven't tried running it yet. Note that it's not in the editor's draft yet. Jeremy already has an action to look at it. Discussion of all the remaining proposed tests, which we had talked about dealing with before going to PR. Agreement that it's okay to approve tests during PR and even after Rec, so its okay to leave these as is. Meeting scheduled for next week to look at them some more. Several comments that it would be nice to get results from RACER. ACTION Jeremy: draw up agenda of tests to discuss next week Likely attendees, at least: Jeremy, Ian, Sean, Charles. **************************************************************** ** Herman's E-mail about S&AS Herman: We should pick one of the two descriptions of DL reasoning and make it normative. Let's make 5.4 informative. Ian: the DL MT was supposed to be definitive, and then equivalence with Full came later. I don't think the correspondence theory was every supposed to be Normative. Jim: I haven't see a single comment suggesting there is any conflict. If we discover they are broken, we have errata. Process-wise, doing some changes when no one has complained is.... odd. Guus: I concur with Jim. "In case of conflict, section 3 prevails". That would be an okay editorial change. JimH: I wouldn't object, but that seems unnecessary. Jeremy: I think we already have this. Test defers to different bits of S&AS for different kinds of conformance, so 5.4 doesn't come in. I also wouldn't oppose the "In case of conflict text"; can live with it. Guus: let's leave adding that sentence, as discussed, to S&AS editor. Ian: I'm okay with adding the sentence. "If any conflict should ever arise between these two forms, the model theory takes precedence" (meeting extended by 15 minutes; no objection) **************************************************************** ** VOTE ON REQUEST FOR PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION Proposed: The Web Ontology Working Group agrees to request that the Director approve Proposed Recommendation status for the six documents as edited since Candidate Recommendation. Roll call vote: 17 "Yes" votes (including proxies) Agfa-Gevaert Distributed Systems Technology Centre (DSTC) Electronic Data Systems (EDS) Fujitsu INRIA Ibrow Jeff Hefflin (invited expert) Lynn Stein (invited expert) MIT/W3C Team MITRE Maryland Information and Network Dynamics (MIND) Lab @ UMD Mike Dean (invited expert) Network Inference Nokia Philips Southhampton Stanford 1 "Abstain" HP 0 "No" RESOLVED, 17-1-0. ACTION JimH: arrange directors meeting ACTION Guus: approach editor of Overview ACTION Guus: approach editor of Guide ACTION Guus: Make changes to reference ACTION Ian: Make changes to S&AS (includes changes from Herman from RDF Semantics review) ACTION JJC: make Test ready for PR. ACTION Jeff: get Requirements ready ACTION Sandro: get ready -- tell editors what's expected of them. ACTION Sandro: provide some SOTD text ACTION Sandro: get editors std list of RDF + OWL documents names and Dec-09 URLs. ACTION Sandro: send out WG members list, (confirm with Chairs first).
Received on Friday, 14 November 2003 00:02:30 UTC